[CryptoParty] sync with kryptoparty.de?

[Nivatius]

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>> "Liste der Kryptoparties in Deutschland
>> http://www.kryptoparty.de/"
> 
> I consider this wording impudent.
Agreed
> 

> 
> Helping people can only be encouraged, I agree. What absolutely
> cannot be encouraged is something like Liste der Kryptoparties in
> Deutschland. And that without asking.
I understand your anger, and ideed I share it.
 But who should have been asked? who is the one to give permission?
> 

> 2) The Pirate party's wiki is of rather low quality on my special
> subject OpenPGP. Or rather: It was until I (say: the other party,
> LOL) repaired that.
Thanks a bunch for that.

> 4) The site is more or less empty except for the event list. It
> seems to me that the domain has been registered a few days ago.
someone had the idea and just did it. It's a part of how pirates
operate. you're allowed to do what you think is usefull. we try to
keep this value as much as possible.


> 5) The Pirate party in the biggest German state (NRW, where they
> are part of the parliament) is looking for a "commissioner for
> cryptofoo": http://vorstand.piratenpartei-nrw.de/?p=700 I have not
> applied for this (volunteer) job but offered my support. No 
> reaction.
The Pirateparty NRW is an disorganized bunch. don't take it personal.
If you allow me I'll try to get in touch with them.
> 
> My interpretation: The Pirate party does not seriously contribute
> to the project (yet).
individuals do. Hell I'm a member and I've held 2 parties and will
hold 5 more. I updated the wiki and contributed to the github.
What is a serous contribution if not that?

They have been expected to do something like that for years.
> Either they haven't or nobody has noticed (in that case the bad
> wiki would be even stranger).
We did put people didn't care abput the subject enough.


They do this in a time of both election campaigning and big
> public interest in the work of OTHERS.
what kind of work do they exactly steal? the pirates put a lot of
resources into the project. because now people care about their
privacy the moment is right. should the pirates do nothing just
because it could be mostaken for an electioncampaign?

The crypto-movemnt and the pirates share the same goals.
> And now they snitch the name.
The name cryptoparty is only known to people that don't need one.
we always have to explain it. if anything the pirates strengthen the name.




> If the Pirate party had done a major part of the work for this
> project then this would have to be judged differently.
What is the major work in this project? I thin the holding of the
cryptopartys and that's exactly what the party does

> To put it differently: The only reason Cryptopartys exist (at least
> in Germany) is the total failure of the Pirate party in this area
> over years.
please elaborate how it's the pirates fault.



> There is a certain risk to disgruntle people who really
> contribute.
> 
you succesfully disgruntled me.

I get that you don't like kryptoparty.de I share your view, but
everything else seems to be your hurt feeling. I don't know why you
hate on the pirateparty so much.
We're all neebies and have pratically no money. Also our way of
organizing forbids strong leadership from above.
Given the circumstances I think the pirates do the best what they can
with best intentions.



please Hauke do contact me off list, if you want to talk about it,
I think we can work it out and find a solution.

sorry for the long post,
Nivatius
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