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[Jerry]

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Hi All,

I would tend to agree with Joshua.  A political party or other group should be free to endorse the CryptoParty concept, or hold an open CryptoParty as long as they do not imply endorsement of their particular cause by CryptoParty(CP).  

Another example would be holding a CP at a church that donated space vs a church holding a CP primarily for it's own members but still open to the public.  Fine Line.

Since the real goal is to provide basic crypto education to as many people as possible I don't see where allowing political or religious groups to hold events hinders or confuses that goal as long as there is no direct or implied endorsement by CP. 

I also don't see anything wrong with policing the wiki for links that are blatant spam or imply political or religious endorsement by CP.

My 2 cents.
Jerry
Organizer, Norfolk, Virginia USA


On Jan 3, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Joshua Scott wrote:

> Agreed. I should have been more specific. Just because a political party
> organizes and holds a cryptoparty does not mean that CryptoParty as a
> whole endorses or is aligned with that political party. I have no
> problem with a PP (Political Party) holding a CryptoParty but I do have
> a problem if the PP tries to claim CryptoParty as their own or
> affiliated with them alone or uses CryptoParty as a means of promoting
> their own agenda.
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/3/2014 9:44 AM, ml at enteig.net wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nivatius wrote:
>> 
>>> Also supporting people in regaining their human right to privacy is a
>> 
>>> political act. Cryptoparties are political.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> yes, but they are "politically non-aligned", too.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 07:30:15 -0600, Josh <josh at wtftacos.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> On Jan 3, 2014, at 3:32 AM, Moritz <moritz at headstrong.de> wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> don't like that political parties do Cryptoparties.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I disagree. If we want to keep saying that we believe that the right to
>> 
>>> privacy is a basic human right then we can't in good conscious say that
>> 
>>> political parties cannot hold cryptoparties. Perhaps they have a more
>> 
>>> specific focus than your average cryptoparty, or have some singular
>> 
>> need?
>> 
>>> Besides there are some political parties I would rather not interact
>> 
>> with
>> 
>>> and if they are doing their own cryptoparties then that means that I
>> 
>> won't
>> 
>>> have to. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I think it is a matter of: does a political party run a CryptoParty or do
>> 
>> people who happen to be members of a party organize a Cryptoparty in a
>> 
>> location which happens to be a workplace of a political party organize a
>> 
>> CryptoParty?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The line is very subjective, but I would encourage everybody who comes
>> 
>> across blatant advertizing (as the case of the green party Hauke came
>> 
>> across suggests) to seek dialog with the party or company (and maybe add a
>> 
>> local mailing list CC). Often they are not aware of CryptoParty's Guiding
>> 
>> Principles (http://www.cryptoparty.in/guiding_principles) and will change
>> 
>> their claims.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Many greetings, such regard,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Malte
>> 
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