[CryptoParty] Summing up Twitter conversations about TeleTrust Sponsorship

[Samuel Carlisle]

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@Hauke and others, have you now seen the reaction on twitter and also
IRC to this offer from of funding? Do you still think we should put
something on the wiki to advertise this? I really hope not...

I think it is abundantly clear that TeleTrust are associated with
Microsoft, RIM, BND, (and the list only gets worse... feel free to dig
more) so these guys are *not* really friends of Cryptoparty- read some
of the comments and guidance coming from twitter:

https://twitter.com/fukami/status/357831954143526912

And many others:

https://twitter.com/fukami/status/357876165337300995
https://twitter.com/fukami/status/357835023967207424
https://twitter.com/AnyGoddamnName/status/357837596954595329

@qbi @samthetechie Some groups received emails from TeleTrusT saying
stuff like "we give you money if you don't focus on Open Source".

@qbi @samthetechie If TeleTrusT wants to make something useful they
should do some funding of crypto OSS (i.e. by paying Werner or others)

@qbi @fukami @samthetechie I'm not entirely sure you'd want an
organisation with MS and RIM being member sponsoring cryptopartys

The conclusion seems to be that TeleTrust can not be involved at the
parties to sponse any drinks or have adverts or anything but they
could indirectly (and very very effectively) support #cryptoparty by
simply donating to OTR: http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/donate.php
GNUpg: http://www.gnupg.org/misc/donations.en.html … Tor:
https://www.torproject.org/donate/donate

This would be for the best of both groups.

samthetechie

On 18 July 2013 01:39, Hauke Laging
<hauke.laging at openpgp-schulungen.de>wrote:

> Am Do 18.07.2013, 01:05:38 schrieb Samuel Carlisle:
> 
>> I think the main question is do they meet *our* requirements. My 
>> personal opinion is no, they do not. Here's why...
>> 
>> So I have had a look at the company's website
> 
> It's not a company. It's non-profit society of companies which are
> active in the area of IT security. I believe they want to help that
> this historical golden opportunity is not passed up.
> 
> 
> I got a call from their director today and we had a very pleasant 
> conversation. He told me that it was difficult for him to get in
> touch with us. Thus he finally contacted the Pirate party and
> luckily the inquiry reached us.
> 
> 
> They want to support the movement but didn't have a good idea how
> to do that.
> 
> IMHO paying for drinks is a bad idea. I don't "pay" my
> participants. They are often surprised that they don't have to pay.
> And considering how I feel after this terrible week I am kind of
> surprised about that, too... :-o
> 
> I have made several suggestions how they could spend the money
> instead. care about that. Thus I told him that one possibility was
> that they offer IT manpower to get such things done.
> 
> Another idea is that they get the handbook translated. It would be
>  perfectly OK to me that everyone who does that puts "initially
> translated by XYZ" on the cover.
> 
> 
> They are also willing to support the events with experts. that that
> makes much sense. We don't need experts on that level but need 
> continuous presence.
> 
> A completely different kind of support which I suggested would be
> to promote the idea of having an internal Cryptoparty. Their
> members could try to motivate their customers to do that and offer
> some information how to get that done.
> 
> 
> 
> The other way round: I guess it makes sense to have a positive list
> of offers which most of us would be willing to accept.
> 
> 
> CU
> 
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