[CryptoParty] TeleTrusT - Thanks but no Thanks

[fukami]

Hi!

On 22.07.2013, at 16:55, Hauke Laging <hauke.laging at openpgp-schulungen.de> wrote:
> Am Mo 22.07.2013, 16:41:51 schrieb fukami:
> 
>> Well, makes it much easier for me to understand what type of person you are.
> 
> Whether that is true or not: That is really the kind of "information" which is 
> useful to the members of this mailinglist. The fact that you wrote this email 
> nonetheless tells something about you.

This mail wasn't on the list. But anyways: I fear no discussion about ethics, 
implications of publicity stunts or whatsoever.

This was an advertising stunt for the cost of the integrity of a community. 
As you said yourself you didn't get the problem, so you shouldn't mind the 
responses to come. And you even got excited in ways that's somewhat weird 
for me: "Die erste Pressemitteilung, in der ich erwähnt werde" (as seen 
on G+). As you said yourself: It was a press release, not press. That you 
didn't even thought about mentioning it on this list while it was discussed 
looks misguided to me (or overlooked I something?).

> Shall we start a thread with everyone spreading his thoughts about everybody 
> else? How about making a press release out of that, who likes whom how much 
> and which consequences that is supposed to have?

There is a big difference if someone's show support by lending an activist voice 
to support the "security industry" in public (in fact secret services, police and 
snakeoil vendors) or having a discussion on a public mailing list. But hey, you 
obviously don't see the fine lines anyways in this case, so it's very difficult
to argue. 

> There is a huge amount of information about me available. Quite a lot even on 
> this list. If you really needed that remark, that 0.1% of what makes up my 
> activity, in order to assess me then I can just pity you.

I don't care what you publish about yourself, I only care that companies, 
associations or political parties taking over communities like they do every
now and then. I'm very sensitive when it comes to a "door opening situation"
like it is now with TTT. If the community doesn't defend against it, the whole
grassroots movement in DE will have hard times to explain the public how to 
distinguish between commercial roadshows and a community event. 


Cheers,
  fukami