[CryptoParty] TTT? A quick overview + Next Steps

[Eva Küper]

Am 22.07.2013 21:26, schrieb Samuel Carlisle:
> TeleTrusT  is a German Network consisting of large Corporations and
> Government  institutions. Its main interest is IT security. Members
> include Microsoft, RIM, BND(German Secret Service), BSI(closely
> affiliated with BND).Bstu.

If I'm not entirely blind the BND is missing from the TTTs member-page,
but the BKA is there.
Mistake or is there some proof for the BND being involved?
It would make us look sort of stupid if we published with the wrong guys
in our text.

Eva

> On the 17th of July, Dr. Holger Mühlbauer offered financial support for
> Cryptoparties in Germany(?) on the following conditions:
> 
>   * The event may not be politically-aligned with any party.
> 
>   * TeleTrusT (= profit association) is known to support the event and
>     mentioned as a supporter on invitations and press releases.
> 
>   * The event must not be an "advertising event for open source software"
> 
> One of the reasons why we have to decline politely is, that
> commercialization and endorsement of corporations, even indirectly by
> TeleTrusT, is against the core values we have as a movement.
> 
> Next Steps:
> 
>   * Heed the advice from fukami and CCCMZ and make a firm, friendly but
>     accurate rejection of the TTT offer.
>   * Join the pad and help with the text:
>     https://cryptoparty.pads.ccc.de/cryptoparty-press-release-notes-no-to-ttt
> 
> 
> On 22 July 2013 20:21, fukami <f at foo.io <mailto:f at foo.io>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Sam,
> 
>     I prefer not have my name in some github repos. Why not use just a
>     pad? Also, should this one be in English or in German?
> 
>     On 22.07.2013, at 19:38, Samuel Carlisle <samuelcarlisle at gmail.com
>     <mailto:samuelcarlisle at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > We may very well celebrate diversity but our community and its values
>     > are now under attack and threat of co-option and we need to speak both
>     > loudly and with a collective voice to send a clear message to the TTT
>     > and also to every other company who will come knocking at our door as
>     > a wolf in sheep's clothing.
> 
>     I would prefer to write an answer like the CCCMZ did: Very very friendly
>     and positive towards a good will, but making clear statements on how
>     cryptoparties should be seen, what OSS means in this context and what
>     one would like to see (i.e. Mr. Zierke of the BKA saying: "We like
>     what you
>     do, keep going" or something like that ^^). Because that's how press
>     releases work, not getting external voices to promote something.
> 
>     But, well if people tend to attack them, I'm also fine, but I don't
>     think that's the better thing to do.
> 
> 
>     Cheers,
>       fukami
> 
> 
> 
> 
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